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Posted by FrodeSolheim at 2020-04-22 16:04:58:

@amigak Maybe you are missing the kickstart for Amiga 600 and FS-UAE runs with the internal kickstart replacement? Does the bootup screen say AROS or soimething like that?

SetPatch should install a lot of patches when running with the correct kickstart ROM...


Posted by thevoice at 2020-04-06 14:38:44:

@amigak i just tested the current whdload variant from the launcher & online database and it just works. if you play around with own settings, then you are on your own.


Posted by amigak at 2020-04-06 11:50:28:

hey guys, im new to fs-uae. i love it great work!

anyways was just playing around, made some changes to the model then I read this discussion. i couldnt find a way to remove my own edits again, so please just drop them.

however i have to say: the game is not working for me with the default a600 model setting: it say "Patch list: None" and then I get a DOS-Error #103 (not enough memory available).

if i change it to a500+ it does work.

maybe im missing something else?


Posted by thevoice at 2018-01-01 16:23:57 (Updated 2018-01-02 13:37:48):

Floppy variants support only df0: for loading, so i changed drive count globally to 1.


Posted by mothra at 2016-09-29 21:36:44:

God thanks!

I have already tested it!

Have fun with Goblins 3 (WHD 2.1, 2.2)

Not working on original Amiga with Turbo and Memory extension. (whdload v16 - v17 testet)

I can run it on fsua with a surreal amiga config. How knows why and what specs you need here.

2.0 working fine on both.


Posted by FrodeSolheim at 2016-09-28 20:20:03:

@thevoice @mothra Amiga model for WHDLoad variant set to A600 smiley


Posted by mothra at 2016-09-27 14:27:45:

There is no difference between 7,15 Mhz (Amiga 600) and 14 Mhz (Amiga 1200) ....hmm okay?!

The Barbarian II: Slave is faulty anyways. The Game should have been patched to run on any machine at same speed.

Look for reference (C64, Atari ST) Versions of the Game. And then tell me it is not running too fast?! That is the speed, it runs on an original Amiga 500. (means you must tweak the Winuae settings also to archive that goal. I did this years ago.)

I know that in Emulation 1200A is a default setup, buts W R O N G IN THIS CASE.

WHD Slaves: all games run on my a Amiga 600 with Turbocard and Memory extension. (Not AGA games of course)

Frodesolheim please correct that SOON.

Sake of Peace...will come when it's fixed! CAUSE ITS WRONG!


Posted by thevoice at 2016-09-27 13:31:45:

request to set amiga model to a600 for the sake of peace xD.


Posted by thevoice at 2016-09-27 13:30:39:

hi,

that is easy to explain. back when frode started fs-uae and the online game database every whdload variant was setup to a1200 automatically if i remember correct. at some later point it was changed to a600 model (for the less resource hungry emulation) and set to a1200 only for these slaves which require an 68020+ cpu to work. and i also dont want to talk you small. i just mentioned there is simply no difference in the whdload variant with either a1200 model or a600 model. nothing more and nothing less.

anyway if frode feels like it he do the changes you have requested.

anyway your suggested a500+ model and kick 2.04 is nothing else but the default a600 model both amigas are stock 68000 and kick 2.x.


Posted by mothra at 2016-09-27 06:00:31:

By the Way Mr. Voice!

Why is the NTSC Version of Barbarian II: Dungeon of Drax called: Axe of Rage configured to A600 2.04 Kickstart??? WHD 1.2!

and the Pal Version is A1200?

Don't talk me small please! I know my games. I asume i am right!

Frodesolheim Please fix it!


Posted by mothra at 2016-09-27 04:57:54:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37p94Pk-Jcc

Das ist ein Amiga Emulator auf der PSP: Seltsam, es ist genau die original Geschwindigkeit des Spiels. So wie die C64er Version auch.


Posted by mothra at 2016-09-27 04:10:22:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-74lywR964

Er spielt zwar gut, aber diese Emulatior-Kiddies werden nicht wissen, dass es ca. doppelt so schnell wie das Original am Amiga 500 läuft!

So nicht!


Posted by mothra at 2016-09-27 03:39:07:

Hallo The Voice!

Ich bin von FSUAE ziemlich begeistert, deswegen benutze ich seit langere Zeit WINUAE nicht mehr.

FSUAE: Benutzereinstellungen kann ich ja nicht speichern, bei einer vorgegebenen Konfiguration. Deshalb kann es nur so laufen wie die Konfiguration für das Spiel runtergeladen wird.

TEST: Kann es vielleicht daran liegen, dass du Barbarian II (Psygnosis) vergliechen hast und nicht Barbarian II: Dungeon of Drax (Palace Software). Das gibt es sonst nicht. Mein echter 600er mit Turbokarte auch zu schnell mit der WHDLOAD Version 1.2 von Barbarian 2 und der ist geschwindigkeitsmässig fast gleichauf mit einem 1200er Amiga.

LÖSUNG: Es ist ganz einfach: WHDLOAD geht ja nicht mit einem 1.3 Kickstart. Deshalb 500+ mit Kickstart 2.04, CPU 68000/ Cycle Exact Option (WinUAE)

Es war nie ein 600er/1200 Spiel... sollt man bei dem Spiel nie einstellen (WHDLOAD hin oder her). Es ist einfach auf die CPU programmiert von einem 500er... je schneller desto unspielbarer. Das ist eines der wenigen Spiele was so ein verhalten hat.

Schau es dir bitte nochmal an. (nicht die Psygnosis Version). Stelle es so ein, es ist von der Geschwindikeit einen kleinen Tupfer schneller als sein Vorgänger: Barbarian - The Ultimate Warrior (Palace Software). Überwindende im Spiel mindestens 3 Höhlen und 3 Gräben...von den Gegnern rede ich gar nicht.. und dann sag mir obs spielbar ist.


Posted by thevoice at 2016-09-25 04:09:20:

amiga_model
A1200 FALSCH -> A500+ ist zwar immer noch ein wenig zu schnell im gegensatz zum original, aber A1200 ist blödsinn da auf Hyperspeed mothra

hi, ich habe gerade die whdload variante mit der standard a1200 einstellung getestet. da ist nix mit hyperspeed. als vergleich hab ich die gleiche variante mit dem a600 model laufen lassen und da ist kein unterschied zum a1200 modell. hast du eventuell irgendwelche custom settings aktiviert ? und bitte benutze die kommentar funktion wink

op used german language for posting, so i assume he is a native german language person. so i answered in german aswell but here is an english version for the international users wink.

english :

op: a1200 model is wrong. set the gsme to a500+ is still a bit too fast but a1200 is bullshit.

my answer: i tested the whdload variant with the standard model a1200 setting. i cant see any "hyperspeed". to compare i tested the same whdload variant with a600 model and ther eis no difference in speed to the a1200 at all. you maybe have some custom settings activated which override the standard database settings? and please use the comment function for such issues.


Posted by FrodeSolheim at 2015-10-26 20:02:03:

@mothra FS-UAE and WinUAE really should run at the same speed (at least for <= 68020 CPUs).

What happens if you choose Amiga 500+ cycle exact config in WinUAE (same as you use with FS-UAE)?

Can you send FS-UAE and WinUAE configs to frode@fs-uae.net for comparison?

Also, are you able to "put a number" on the speed difference?


Posted by mothra at 2015-10-06 14:09:23:

Barbarian II: Dungeon of Drax (PAL) 50hz was designed for the Amiga 500 1MB Ram. I played it 1992. Was a huge Fan.

Every Video for example Youtube is WRONG. It runs too fast! On a real Machine A1200 also.

FSUAE Config is: 500+ & No CPU Turbo! - is still a little too fast.

WINUAE Config: Amiga 500 ECS Chipset: Cycle Exact! 1MB Memory! - Exact Speed of the Game.


Posted by Retro-Nerd at 2013-03-10 17:57:58:

Fixed


Posted by Retro-Nerd at 2013-03-10 08:35:10:

TODO: Also the wrong WHDLoad.de link. This time to Barbarian 2 Psygnosis.